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part4. . . unlike any person I have heard or read so far, Alan Watts opened up a way to question our images of Reality by pointing out the often silly and arbitrary definitions of words and language. To me, he really showed by logic examples of habitual assumption in language and thought that affect our view of Reality.
I don’t know if he was so-called “enlightened”. . . only he could have felt that. All I know is his words have chopped down many illusionary blockages for which I am thankful.
part3. . . with questioning everything. This not only includes assumptions based on language but assumptions of thought. His mentioning that we arbitrarily decide to define the Sun by it’s visual disk as opposed to the extent of it’s radiation (where we would be inside of it) is something important! This simple example reveals how we humans define our definition of so-called “objects” entirely arbitrarily. Our definitions of boxes of Reality is our own invention! It is not “Absolute Reality”!
part2. . . . I am reminded of the Zen monk Ikkyu (1394 – 1481) who would enter brothels wearing his monks clothing to be with prostitutes. He knew other monks would wear civilian clothes and go there too. To him, being with the prostitutes was a spiritual experience as much as any other important thing in Reality and to sneak in was to be misguided by fake and hypocritical cultural nonsense!
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Now the thing about Watts was his incredible almost child-like fascination with questioning – cont >
I have read from ancient stories that even enlightened ones could not be determined from external view (ie, from the perception of ‘others’).
Some people may see certain aspects of Watts’ life and automatically judge those aspects as being signs of being “unenlightened” (eg, drinking, being with tons of women) but those perceptions are based on an cultural assumptions. Other teachers may avoid certain things but if they are avoiding them retain an “appearance”, they are in fact hypocrites
Now, Manly P. Hall’s lecture about Jacob’s Ladder may be long and the introduction is lengthy but it does get into extreme detail about the relation of the number 7 , the 7 major chakras, the 7 planets and luminaries (5 known planets and 2 luminaries – Sun & Moon), the 7 wonders of the world and many other concepts involving this number.
The ancients in many cultures had detailed symbolism. Seen as “symbolic representations”, they are still valid.
google : manly p hall jacob’s ladder
No matter how you want to label all this with words and symbolism from various religions, many religions (even secretly so that followers may even scoff at this idea because they believe the surface level dogmas) do contain these ideas as symbols.
google : manly p hall jacob’s ladder
to reach some great lectures describing this and more.
Personally I feel that Buddhas and Christ (and others) had this experience. How religions that develop after they are gone is another issue
This whole idea of levels of spiritual experience is present in many religions and mythologies. Even the old Earth centred model of the Cosmos was representing this within humans. The Greeks had a similar idea of these energy centres. The series went from low to top: Earth(Matter,Mother), Moon, Mercury (Lucifer), Venus(Christ), Sun(solar plexus heat), Mars, Jupiter,Saturn, Ouranus(the Heavens = crown chakra = union with the Ultimate Reality, Brahman, the Father. . . whatever you want to label it.
“i thought kundalini was shakti arising through the chakras”
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Yeah I say the Kundalini is the “coiled” (what it means) energy that rises. Reaching the crown chakra is the experience of moksha, nirvana, union with the Brahman (goal of yoga or “union”) or the Kensho of Zen (some people say Satori but I think that is a momentary “insight experience”). I feel this is the “I and the Father are One” that Jesus said (Father being a patriarchal society’s way of labelling the Oneness)
Of course there has been lots of them. Watts isn’t exactly enlightened, although he has had lots of mystical experiences, but he doesn’t seem to have been able to surrender his ego fully. For an example of a more enlightened person check out Adyashanti.
My goodness, how does he put that feeling into words. . . simply brilliant!
watts the modern time Buddha